4. Paranormal Rejects Science - OUR ANSWER222222
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:40 pm
Never Passed Muster
It's tough to start this page because it's tempting to blurt everything at once.
Sorry guys but the paranormal has failed, failed miserably on all fronts. We'll see that demonstrated in the next few sections: Hoaxes & Exploiters, Failed Studies, and Bad Science. Why don't we see more scientific paranormal studies? Because on the rare occasion of one, it mostly falls flat. (See section Failed Studies.) And the paranormal researchers who claim to have independent evidence, OFTEN won't bother to put it into scientific format. All of this information, and there's a lot of ground here, is broken up into sections. All these things together show that the paranormal also rejects science. Personally, we find this disheartening because like Fox Mulder we really want to believe. But science tells us that we're basically believing in BS. Some university programs exist, as we'll see in the history list as it gets to current day. Even these departments do not sway skeptics' unwavering rejection of the paranormal. (Yes, "para" means other. That vernacular nuance is discussed elsewhere.)
Non-scientists like us can exchange anecdotes all day long but that's not the same as having scientific evidence to show the skeptics. Yet, instead of working toward progress, the two sides have devolved into echo chambers (See section Echo Chambers.)
So here we are, each camp in its own echo chamber.
Because of this, the paranormal doesn't much try any more, to prove itself to science.
IT SEEMS (but we won't name names just to disrespect people) that paranormal researchers and investigators, the bulk of them, are only talking to each other instead of the larger scientific community. (And of course, skeptics are having none of anything paranormal.)
This is self-defeating!!!
If the paranormal wants answers, as it usually claims, then science must be employed. (Recall that science really means knowledge that has been confirmed by consensus.) The best way to do that is to operate IN COORDINATION with "accepted science."
This is not really happening, currently.
If anyone disagrees with this, we want to hear from you!
Please, prove this opinion wrong.
Meanwhile, to keep a proper perspective, let's look at the history of paranormal and how it diverges from science.
A. MOST Ancient History, Recently Discovered
A December 2019 paper in the journal Nature detailed the discovery of the world's oldest known cave art. This journal article of course prompted a science communication article on the story by LiveScience.com, a respected skeptical media outlet.
Earliest hunting scene in prehistoric art. Maxime Aubert, Rustan Lebe, Adhi Agus Oktaviana, Muhammad Tang, Basran Burhan, Hamrullah, Andi Jusdi, Abdullah, Budianto Hakim, Jian-xin Zhao, I. Made Geria, Priyatno Hadi Sulistyarto, Ratno Sardi & Adam Brumm. Nature. December 2019.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1806-y?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=3_nsn6445_deeplink_PID100052172&utm_content=deeplink
Humanity's Oldest Cave Art Shows Shape-Shifting Supernatural Hunters. Charles Q. Choi. Live Science. December 11, 2019.
https://www.livescience.com/oldest-rock-art-supernatural-beings.html
Likely the title is a nod to the long-standing topic of Therianthropy, the combining of animals and humans. It's been seen from ancient Egypt to modern vampire enthusiasts to epic-ly enduring tales of skinwalkers.
Therianthropy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therianthropy
However skeptics were not amused, as evidenced by comments to the LiveScience.com article.
Commentor #1
B. Ancient History
Let's jump right into the deep end.
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MAIN / OUR ANSWER 5. Hoaxes & Exploiters
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It's tough to start this page because it's tempting to blurt everything at once.
Sorry guys but the paranormal has failed, failed miserably on all fronts. We'll see that demonstrated in the next few sections: Hoaxes & Exploiters, Failed Studies, and Bad Science. Why don't we see more scientific paranormal studies? Because on the rare occasion of one, it mostly falls flat. (See section Failed Studies.) And the paranormal researchers who claim to have independent evidence, OFTEN won't bother to put it into scientific format. All of this information, and there's a lot of ground here, is broken up into sections. All these things together show that the paranormal also rejects science. Personally, we find this disheartening because like Fox Mulder we really want to believe. But science tells us that we're basically believing in BS. Some university programs exist, as we'll see in the history list as it gets to current day. Even these departments do not sway skeptics' unwavering rejection of the paranormal. (Yes, "para" means other. That vernacular nuance is discussed elsewhere.)
Non-scientists like us can exchange anecdotes all day long but that's not the same as having scientific evidence to show the skeptics. Yet, instead of working toward progress, the two sides have devolved into echo chambers (See section Echo Chambers.)
So here we are, each camp in its own echo chamber.
Because of this, the paranormal doesn't much try any more, to prove itself to science.
IT SEEMS (but we won't name names just to disrespect people) that paranormal researchers and investigators, the bulk of them, are only talking to each other instead of the larger scientific community. (And of course, skeptics are having none of anything paranormal.)
This is self-defeating!!!
If the paranormal wants answers, as it usually claims, then science must be employed. (Recall that science really means knowledge that has been confirmed by consensus.) The best way to do that is to operate IN COORDINATION with "accepted science."
This is not really happening, currently.
If anyone disagrees with this, we want to hear from you!
Please, prove this opinion wrong.
Meanwhile, to keep a proper perspective, let's look at the history of paranormal and how it diverges from science.
- A. MOST Ancient Paranormal History
- B. Ancient Paranormal History
- C. Middle Paranormal History
- D. Modern Paranormal History
- E. Current-Day Paranormal Theories
A. MOST Ancient History, Recently Discovered
A December 2019 paper in the journal Nature detailed the discovery of the world's oldest known cave art. This journal article of course prompted a science communication article on the story by LiveScience.com, a respected skeptical media outlet.
Earliest hunting scene in prehistoric art. Maxime Aubert, Rustan Lebe, Adhi Agus Oktaviana, Muhammad Tang, Basran Burhan, Hamrullah, Andi Jusdi, Abdullah, Budianto Hakim, Jian-xin Zhao, I. Made Geria, Priyatno Hadi Sulistyarto, Ratno Sardi & Adam Brumm. Nature. December 2019.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1806-y?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=3_nsn6445_deeplink_PID100052172&utm_content=deeplink
Humanity's Oldest Cave Art Shows Shape-Shifting Supernatural Hunters. Charles Q. Choi. Live Science. December 11, 2019.
https://www.livescience.com/oldest-rock-art-supernatural-beings.html
Likely the title is a nod to the long-standing topic of Therianthropy, the combining of animals and humans. It's been seen from ancient Egypt to modern vampire enthusiasts to epic-ly enduring tales of skinwalkers.
Therianthropy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therianthropy
However skeptics were not amused, as evidenced by comments to the LiveScience.com article.
Commentor #1
Commentor #2I know that native Americans and a few others have both supernatural and use camouflage, but why is supernatural assumed instead of camouflage in this case?
It is almost certainly camouflage. Sadly the left-fascists who have assumed so many power roles in universities and mainstream media never, ever go with the obvious practical answer. And they never, ever give "primitive people" any credit for being smarter than a young child.
Researchers discovered cave paintings depicting what may be part-animal, part-human figures — decked out with animal snouts — hunting wild pigs and dwarf buffaloes in Indonesia. These may be the oldest known examples of rock art, a new study finds.
The 44,000-year-old artwork may also be the oldest evidence for the human ability to imagine the existence of supernatural beings, scientists added.
B. Ancient History
Let's jump right into the deep end.
NEXT IN "OUR ANSWERS" SERIES: (Impasse: Why Science Rejects Paranormal)
5. Hoaxes - OUR ANSWER
QUICK LINKS - Impasse: Why Science Rejects Paranormal
MAIN / Why Science Rejects the Paranormal
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 1. Start Here - Short Answer
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 2. Scientific Revolution
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 3. Misunderstanding Science
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 4. Paranormal Rejects Science
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 5. Hoaxes & Exploiters
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 6. Failed Studies
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 7. The Amazing Randi
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 8. Bad Science
MAIN / OUR ANSWER 9. Echo Chambers
MAIN / What's Your Opinion?
Home
NOTE: The material in the APP's "Our Answers" sometimes seems elementary and simplistic, yet at the same time long and drawn-out. Yes. It's the beginning foundation for the topic. If you're an expert on a topic, then by all means add your suggestions to the appropriate forums. There can be a steep learning curve for those not already familiar with the many facets (and topics) covered by this project. Our answers are a starting point. (Feel free to help round-out topics if we've missed something.)
If you're in-between a novice and an expert, consider just checking out the several RESOURCES listed within each of our "OUR ANSWERS" posts. Readers don't have to take our word for it. Each part has good external sources/links, so you can get more in-depth and intricate answers from real experts. Remember when you see Wikipedia listed, that it has a ton of references so you can see where the information originated. Wiki is also great for an overview of a subject. And on big topics there's usually a system of organization that gives each facet its own flowchart of information/sources. (And Wiki is free, with no ads, and open to peer review. What's not to like?)
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Share your knowledge. Don't be shy if you have a QUALITY contribution. (But please be polite, and proofread.) Sometimes special forums exist just for feedback on the project. That'll be apparent when looking at the list of a forum's discussions.
There are two ways to add your opinions/content: Either create a reply OR create a new post.
For a quick comment about whatever post you're reading, just REPLY to it. The button is available both above and below the post, and has BRIGHT PURPLE text.
To add a new post of your own to a discussion, use the "NEW TOPIC" button located on every forum's main list of posts. Generally hit the back button from any post you're reading (or use the breadcrumbs up top), to go back a step to the main forum for that discussion. The button is available both above and below every forum's main list of posts, has BRIGHT PURPLE text, and says "NEW TOPIC." (It sounds more formal than it is.)
If you have a nice chunk of GOOD INFORMATION, please choose to add a NEW post in the (most-) appropriate forum rather than a comment-reply. That way you'll generate comments of your own. PLUS it will show up in the list of posts so other interested people will notice it's there. (PLUS we're a new website/project, so we could use all the QUALITY submissions we can get.)
All of your content displays your avatar and tagline (signature). You can edit these in your "user panel" or it will default to generic/blank. BTW, users can include plugs to their own websites or whatever, in their profiles. USERS BEWARE and Google the website name before you actually go there. Make sure you're going to some place legit that isn't going to scam you or give your computer an STD. (Little joke there. I'll see myself out...)
TIPS FOR POLLS: Polls appear on some posts, IF its author has created one. They're open to ALL registered users. All APP-written polls are set to be ongoing and allow you to change your vote later. Feel free to comment your suggestions for improving any poll, ours or others', just be kind and helpful.
CREATING A POLL: When writing any post (not comment replies) look for the option named "Poll Creation" in a TAB below the "submit" button. Fill in your Qs/As and double-check the default options. You can always edit the poll later via editing the POST itself and navigating back to that same tab. (Change whatever and re-submit.) But that sort of defeats the purpose if you change it after people have answered, right? So to start, create an option for ALL POSSIBLE points of view. Lastly, the poll will display below the post after it's published. In "preview" mode it shows on top.
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